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12 Jul 2017 18:50:45
Sign Rondo to the midlevel exception.

Lakers 2017-18 Roster:
Ball - Rondo - Nwaba
KCP - Clarkson - Hart
Ingram - Deng
Randle - Nance Jr - Kuzma
Lopez - Zubac - Bryant

As of right now the Lakers would go into 2018 free agency with 9 players and about $50 to spend (not including Randle's restricted free agency hold).

The Lakers could have enough for 2 max contracts if they trade Clarkson for a draft pick, or pair an asset (Randle) with Deng in a cap clearing trade.

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12 Jul 2017 20:34:08
Right now for 2018 the cap space is at $57.7M if the salary cap is $99M like this year. Hopefully it goes up to at least $102M next off season so the Lakers can sign those 2 allstars without giving up anybody. Right now teams willing to take Deng want Ingram which isn't happening. I say let's not worry about Deng's contract and hope he improves.

Now if the Lakers are over the cap with 2 allstars potentially coming in there will be a tough decision to make. Hate to see Randle walk yet alone for nothing but that might be what happens.

14 Jul 2017 13:25:50
Ingram, Ball, Nance Jr., Zubac, Kuzma, and Hart's contracts combine for $20,381,422 for the 2018-19 season. Factor in a 2way contract with Bryant and you're looking at $21.5 mil at most for a solid 7 man young core all on rookie contracts. I'd rather have Randle's restricted free agent hold against our cap next year than Clarkson's $12.5 mil, because we can make him an unrestricted free agent to clear his cap hold (what Detroit did to KCP) .

I believe the Lakers can get a future late 1st round pick for Clarkson. Worst case scenario we have to stretch Deng at the end of the year, leaving us with a $7,362,000 mil cap hit over 5 years. That adds up to just under $29 mil, not including Randle's cap hold. With the expected $102 mil salary cap, we'd be looking at $73 mil to spend. A George and Cousins pairing still leaves us with the ability to resign Randle at market value. A starting line up of Ball, Ingram, George, Randle, Cousins with a bench of at least Hart, Nance Jr., Kuzma, and Zubac could be in the Western Conference Finals.

14 Jul 2017 18:52:23
I am going to start with your thoughts on the stretch provision first. In the 2011 CBA it was 5 years stretch with 1 year remaining on the contract. That doesn't apply to Deng.
In the new 2017 CBA a player must play 2 season with the team which Deng will after this season and the stretch will be over 3 years now. So if Deng is owed $36M over 2 season the Lakers can stretch for 3 making it $12M per the following 3 years.

Clarkson- The Lakers attempted to trade Clarkson for a first outright this year and nobody wanted to take on the contract without giving up salary. It will be worst next year. The problem is a lot of teams want to do the same thing and that is clear cap space. Lakers have a lot of difficult decision to make cause your right they have Randle to worry about then also Brook Lopez. The pairing of George and Cousins is fine but I think Magic Johnson wants the pairing of Paul George with Lebron James instead. With James Lakers will need players around him and that is where we need to see Clarkson in the line up. Lopez might be a better fit for Walton's system than Cousins plus cheaper.

15 Jul 2017 11:25:55
Thank you for informing me of the new stretch provision change. Even with that cap hit, we would have enough to pay Randle and have 2 max contracts.

As for Clarkson, the bonus with his contract is that it's up the year Anthony Davis is a free agent. If Cousins leaves next summer, everyone will expect him to look elsewhere due to the Pelicans lack of assets and being cap strapped. This free agency and draft had an abundance of guards, which may have saturated his market. The remainder of his contract will look more appealing next year with about $25 mil left over 2 years. If not a late 1st rounder, maybe an early 2nd round pick from a rebuilding team. If we pull off signing LeBron then we would have to convince Lopez to take a huge hometown pay cut. I like his game, but would prefer George and Cousins as it fits positional needs and their young ages allows us to contend for championships as soon as the warriors decline.

10 Jul 2017 03:30:25
Prediction for Laker roster. I'm not seeing us getting a key free agent.

PG Ball/
SG Clarkson/ Hart/ Nwaba
SF Ingram/ Brewer/ Deng
PF Randle/ Nance/ Kuzma
C Lopez/ Zubac/ Bryant
But we need more PG's. Who is left that might actually come for a one year deal?

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10 Jul 2017 17:58:16
These are the players the Lakers are targeting. You are correct. No key free agents are coming this year and it is set up that way. Lakers are only looking at 1 year deals so there is a limit cause players that the Lakers were interested in are getting multi year deals. I think the Lakers should sign Brandon Jennings and Shabazz Muhammad as the final 2 spots. Ball isn't going to score a lot and Hart will probably be limited in scoring this season so the Lakers really need to get a scorer. Caldwell Pope would be my second choice but he will command a lot of money for a 1 year deal.

Rodney Stuckey
Kentavious Caldwell Pope
Rajon Rondo
Shabazz Muhammad
Tony Allen
Thabo Sefolosha
Brandon Jennings
Arron Afflalo.

12 Jul 2017 17:02:22
Wow. We actually got KCP. Now if we can get a cheap veteran PG.

12 Jul 2017 23:13:23
Lakers have waived David Nwaba to sign Caldwell Pope.

Lakers will either sign as a back up PG Rondo, Ennis, Clark, Stuckey or Canaan with the mid level. It's tough to predict who takes the offer cause all of them are getting multi year offers.

13 Jul 2017 02:27:39
If we do a sign and trade for KCP let's say for a future 2nd do we get his bird rights and be able to resign him next year and go over the cap?

13 Jul 2017 04:36:14
Normally yes but KCP was renounced by the Pistons.

10 Jul 2017 01:24:36
I saw this lineup and thought it wasn't bad if the play at NBA level is decent.

PG: Ball/Clarkson
SG: Ingram/Nwaba/Hart
SF: Kuzma/Deng/Brewer
PF: Randle/Nance/Bryant
C: Lopez/Zubac

Now I know that summer league is and should be taken with a grain of salt but I like the versatility of the lineup. This is, of course, if Lakers cannot grab anyone.
I see two primary SGs to target. Caldwell-Pope and Aaron Afflalo.

-Caldwell-Pope wanted the max from DET. Doubt he gets it. His DUI is a bad look for teams. If he takes the Lakers 1Y 19M deal and improves his stock, he can get that max from another team. Brooklyn was another team to sign him. I do think they make him an offer but he's a SG and the Nets have Russell who should be their SG. Should is the key word. Russell is obviously better at SG than PG.

-Afflalo is not the 3&D player he once was but he would be a good fit for the lineup. A good locker room presence and smart player. He would fare well next to Lonzo and he would also be playing for hometown

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01 Jul 2017 03:24:59
WTF? That's all it took to get George? What did the Lakers offer?

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01 Jul 2017 04:47:49
The Thunder took a bad offer. The Lakers offered Clarkson, Randle, the 27th pick and 28th pick and it got rejected. let's put this into thought alittle. Oladipo making $22M a year averages the same amount as Clarkson does and Clarkson makes half of what Oladipo does. Randle a double/ double machine is coming into a contract year. So those are 2 high prospects. Then the Pacers could have had a chance at drafting 2 good players. So now the Pacers are on the books for $22M a season and $3M a season total $25M. Even the Celtics made an offer I hear of 3 1st round picks, Bradley, and Crowder. That was even a better offer than the Lakers. I am happy that the Lakers waited. George will come to the Lakers in 2018 and will have the 4 assets that were in that offer.

01 Jul 2017 17:49:31
There is an updated rumor to this trade. Plus the Pacer took the bad offer not the Thunder from my original comment.

The rumor is that the Pacers didn't want to give what Paul George wanted and that was a trade to the Lakers so they asked for a lot. Same with the Celtics. They didn't want to send him to a contending team in the same conference without getting a lot in return. We are sitting here debating on including Brandon Ingram yet based on reports the Pacers might have still not taken the deal with him in the deal. I can understand not sending him to the Celtics but if he was sent to the Lakers the pick the Celtics might get wouldn't happen and the Sixers get a lower pick. So yeah it didn't make much sense. Just sour grapes on the Pacers part.

30 Jun 2017 23:23:34
I don't think any of the other teams have the assets to lose for pg13 so LA should move on and wait for him next year. Look in trading Randle and drug for either wade or Aldridge if the trade for wade then sign Blake. Now you have more money for 2018 for George and another FA

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30 Jun 2017 20:17:06
When the stretch the contracts, how many years is it?

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30 Jun 2017 21:43:11
3 years stretch and the player must be under contract for at least 2 seasons before stretch can be made.

29 Jun 2017 14:31:25
Trade Brandon Ingram for Demar Derozan
Trade Julius Randle for DeAaron Fox
Sign Blake Griffin
Trade Lonzo Ball, Brook Lopez For Anthony Davis
Sign Gordan Hayward
Sign Rudy Gay


DeAaron Fox
Demar Derozan
Gordan Hayward
Blake Griffin

Anthony Davis

Jordan Clarkson
David Nwaba
Rudy Gay
Larry Nance Jr.
Ivica Zubac

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30 Jun 2017 00:23:11
Why do you think Randle is worth Fox? None of these are realistic.

28 Jun 2017 22:35:16
LA needs to trade Randle,Clarkson,ingram,Deng to Indiana for pg3 and Monte Ellis
Then sign Blake Griffin
Sign Rudy Gay cheap

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30 Jun 2017 00:23:55
They do NOT need to do that.

23 Jun 2017 18:04:56
Lakers 2018

Sign Paul George 4y Max

Resign Brook Lopez 3y 70m

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23 Jun 2017 07:36:45
I am so proud to be a laker all season I've been saying Josh hart would bring defense to the team and BOOM magic delivers props to the man.

I feel we drafted around alonzo with everyone having a good shot and good defense

Lonzo
Hart
Ingram
Kuzma
Zubac

I don't think any team can even touch that roster

Lonzo is the perfect player for the team now that lakers built a good Shooting and defending team around him

Josh Hart will bring all around game and solid defense imo a better upgrade over Clarkson

Ingram is a slasher who as he fills out will be a solid defender and a fantastic piece to help out on offense

Kuzma brings much needed Versatility and Toughness that would be needed

Thomas bryant is the perfect 3 and D center to compliment to Lonzos vision



I feel that philly might actually not be able to handle this lineup since they have only 2 players who can truly stretch the floor and the third gets hurt too often. this would be the Showdown
Philly Lakers
Fultz Ball
Covington Hart
Simmons Ingram
Saric Kuzma
Embiid Zubac


I feel we should Trade Randle and Clarkson after the season if they can't keep up and just keep getting picks because this team is going to win in 4-5 years may even steal 8th this season if they can really gel and everyone plays their part

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