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25 Jul 2017 07:59:06
SAS / LAL

SAS: Brandon Ingram, Jordan Clarkson, Ivica Zubac, future 1st

LAL: Kawhi Leonard

- Lakers then trade Julius Randle, Luol Deng, future 1st to Brooklyn and if LA manages to sign George/James this summer.

Ball
Leonard
George
James
?

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23 Jul 2017 16:37:39
Can we trade KCP already? We could trade him, randle, and 2 future 1st rounders for kyrie. Cleveland will keep their roster strong. KCP better than Rose. Plus lakers can still trade Clarkson and Deng together for something else down the line. PG13 wants a star set in L.A. before he comes, here you go.

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23 Jul 2017 18:10:10
KCP hasn't even played 1 game yet and you want him gone already? lol.

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23 Jul 2017 23:40:13
W3 know how Irving and KCP play. If you were to build around a player, who would you pick? Seriously.

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24 Jul 2017 03:48:11
Both players are role players. Obviously Kyrie Irving gives you more scoring and KCP gives better defense. I wouldn't say Kyrie Irving is a main guy type player. We can sit here debate or disagree all we want fact is the numbers don't lie and that Kyrie Irving will not make the Lakers a winner as the main guy. We have Lonzo Ball who is a perfect fit for what the Lakers need.

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24 Jul 2017 20:04:19
You can't trade KCP until Dec 15th. League rules when signing a free agent.

I don't think Kyrie is the answer. He is too ball dominant and will not fit into Luke's system. We need to wait for PG13 and LBJ, and work on getting rid of Clarkson and Deng.

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23 Jul 2017 16:30:55
Biggiest Block Buster trade in history in 30 days bc CP3 can't be traded for another 30 days

Cavs get Pope Clarkson Ntlikina O'Quinn Ingram Black Hartenstein Knicks Lakers 2018 unprotect 1st

Lakers get Lebron Melo CP3 Felder Kelly

Knicks get Irving Deng

Rockets get Lopez JrSmith Calderon

If the ineventible is going to happen to the Cavs, they should salvage and build a future.

Clarkson/Ntilikina/Felder
Pope/Shumpert/Osman
Ingram/Korver/Jefferson
Love/Frye/Hartenstein
Thompson/O'Quinn/Tavares

Get Wade in a buyout sign Rose MLE. Beat warrior win title. Wade retire restructure Melo Lebron contract resign CP3 sign George do it again

CP3/Ball/Felder
Wade/Rose/Hart
Melo/Brewer/Kuzma
LeBron/Randle/Kelly
Zubac/Nancejr/Bryant

Rockets success came with depth. Now deeper. D'Antoni offense success is with 1 ballhandler.

Harden/Calderon/Taylor
Gordon/Smith/Quartermann
Ariza/Tucker/Williams
Anderson/Capela/Long
Lopez/Nene/Anuaka

New face of franchise. New offense.
Stretch provision Noah save 5 mil in cap space
Sign Gerald Green JaMychal Green
Lee Deng for Jackson T.Harris

Irving/Jackson/Baker
Hardaway/Dotson/Randle
Green/Thomas/Kuzminkas
Harris/Green/Hayes
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Kornet

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24 Jul 2017 03:07:13
Whose pope?

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24 Jul 2017 20:06:59
Pope = KCP

Lakers don't have a 1st round pick in 2018. Plus, too much crap to even read to see if it's legit.

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23 Jul 2017 16:07:19
Cavs - Lakers - Knicks

Cavs gets:
Noah
Deng
Randle
2018 1st Knicks
2019 swap right Knicks
2020 1st Knicks
2020 1st Lakers
2022 1st Knicks
2022 2nd Lakers

Lakers gets:
Love

Knicks gets:
Irving

Knicks and Lakers trade picks for stars and tries to compete this coming season. Moving future 1st's haven't worked well for teams in the past but they take the risk anyway.

Cavs go in full rebuild and gets 4 1st round picks for Irving and Love. The next move would be to move LeBron and get additional picks for the future.

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24 Jul 2017 20:08:01
Just what the Lakers need. another power forward.

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23 Jul 2017 02:41:04
I know it's the hot news right now but I don't want to get in to the Kyrie stuff.

At this season's trade deadline:
Lakers trade: Clarkson, Randle, Deng, 2019 1st rounder
Pelicans trade: Anthony Davis

If the ad boogie thing won't work out and they are out of the playoffs again, pelicans might want to send out Davis and in this scenario I'm predicting both Clarkson and Randle having great seasons. Don't judge it right away that this trade would be impossible, remember what Cousins traded for and Jimmy Butler.

Ball/ Hart/ Caruso
KCP/ Matt Thomas
Ingram/ Kuzma/ Brewer
Davis/ Nance
Lopez/ Bryant/ Zubac

I think this is an awesome looking team. Then in the 2018 offseason we finally get Paul George and we will be incredible.

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23 Jul 2017 06:25:51
Pelican want more.

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23 Jul 2017 12:36:28
The Celtics are the most likely team to acquire Anthony Davis. They could have a couple top 5 picks this summer in addition to the Grizzlies and Clippers 2019 1st rounders, not to mention all of their own picks. They could send the two top 5 picks in 2018 and their own late 1st rounder and either Brown or Tatum. Now compare that to the offer of Deng, Clarkson, Randle, and a late lottery pick in 2019 (which is untradeable anyways, because you can't trade 1st rounders in back to back years) . We aren't getting Anthony Davis via trade.

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24 Jul 2017 03:08:12
Just cause Celtics are most likely doesn't mean anything. See Jimmy B and PG13.

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24 Jul 2017 20:10:09
Unless Anthony Davis requests a trade, he will be a Pelican for as long as he wants. Meaning the Pelicans will not trade their franchise player. duh!

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22 Jul 2017 23:00:17
Kyrie Irving asked the Cavs for a trade; which of our assets is worth trading for him (comment below)?

Lakers get Kyrie Irving

Cavs get Ball, Randle, and Clarkson

We go into 2018 free agency with ~$57 mil to spend after stretching Deng's contract. Pair Kyrie with Paul George and Demarcus Cousins and you got a contender with the average age of 23.5 (George would be the oldest at 28).

Irving - Ennis?
Ingram - Hart
George - (Mid-level Exception)
Nance Jr. - Kuzma
Cousins - Zubac - Bryant

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23 Jul 2017 00:03:42
The good thing about players asking to be traded is that you don't have to give a lot even though they are an elite player. When players ask to be traded, it takes all the power away from the original team and into the other teams hand. It's either the original team takes what they are offered or they just let the player walk and they get nothing. So we don't need to trade those 3 players together. Maybe a Clarkson, Randle and Brewer.

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23 Jul 2017 03:04:39
I understand where you're coming from, but Kyrie Irving is a clutch champion and 4 time all-star at the age of 25. He has the best handles in the league and is on a team friendly contract for 2-3 more years. He is a top 3 Point Guard and debatably the best player in the league that hasn't entered his prime. The Cavs could receive the most assets in a trade since Carmelo to the Knicks. Don't kid yourself thinking Randle, Clarkson, and Brewer can realistically get you that kind of talent. Ball can't be traded till December 15th anyways so it's unlikely a Kyrie trade hasn't happened by then.

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23 Jul 2017 03:53:09
Englago I know your one of the guys trying to push Kyrie Irving for the Lakers. It would be a mistake trading for him. Magic Johnson traded Russell because he wasn't a leader. Kyrie Irving is not a leader. His first 3 season before Lebron James got to Cleveland the team had a winning percentage of under .350 This year without Lebron the team went 0-9. Not 1 game won. Irving can't be the main guy. Lebron James made what Kryie Irving is today. Without him Irving isn't as good. Let the Knicks have him. Lonzo Ball is a team player. He can lead and developed good chemistry with the other players. Lakers have a better chance with the roster they have then that deal for Irving.

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23 Jul 2017 12:43:44
I actually don't think we should trade for him, although I could see how you'd assume that given this post. I'd much rather have a good rookie scale contract point guard who shares the ball, than a soon max contract allstar scoring point guard. My posts are just interesting options for the Lakers. In my own opinion, we should be doing whatever possible to get a George and Cousins pairing in free agency by creating cap space through trading Deng and Clarkson (Randle would also be a casualty, but I love his game) .

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24 Jul 2017 20:57:34
Guys, i don t think we should go after Kyrie, but this trade, it s not so bad

BALL + JC + Randle for WALL

THINK about this if we get wall now, cousins will sign with us next year and PG13 will come also cause, he want to play here and he will have more chance to beat warrior with us than Wesbrook .

pg WALL
sg INGRAM
sf PG13
pf LANCE or KUZMA
c COUSINS

and REMEMBER next year warriors have to choose between KLAY and KD, CAUSE klay will ask max deal, nothing less 25 M SO they can t keep him.
i think with this lineup we can make playoff, and maybe beat warrior in 7.

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25 Jul 2017 03:23:27
Denzel- John Wall just signed an extension. That line up isn't beating the Warriors.

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22 Jul 2017 20:21:18
Trade clarkson, randle, ingram and deng for irving and love. 5th seed at least for sure. Then we can add pg13 next season.

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24 Jul 2017 20:14:34
The Cavs are going to want picks for Irving, and good ones. As well as up and comers, and established veterans. Plus, I don't think Kyrie will fit into a motion offense that Luke has installed.

Nice try, but Clarkson and Randle need to prove they are more dimensional, and who in their right mind would take Deng without a 1st pick attached.

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22 Jul 2017 20:15:04
4 team trade with Cavs, Knicks, & Rockets:

Lakers Trade: Clarkson, Randle, Denver's 2018 and Chicago's 2019 second round picks.
Lakers Get: Porzingis and Frye

Cavs Trade: Irving, Shumpert, and Frye
Cavs Get: Gordon, Clarkson, Ariza, Black, Knicks 2019 (top 7 protected) 1st round pick, Denver's 2018 and Chicago's 2019 second round pick.

Knicks Trade: Anthony, Porzingis, and 2019 first round pick (top 7 protected)
Knicks Get: Irving, Randle, and Shumpert

Rockets Get: Anthony
Rockets Trade: Gordon, Ariza, Black

This trade allows the Cavs and Knicks to relocate their disgruntled stars immediately, instead of waiting until Dec. 15th for recent signings to become trade eligable. The Cavs maintain athe ability to sign Rose and compete their way into the finals, while also setting a foundation for a rebuild (expect a Love and/or Thompson trade for assets). The Knicks get a superstar in Irving along with 2 starters, all of which are at the beginning of their primes. The Rockets (who are selling the Franchise) will pair Melo with Chris Paul and James Harden to become a true contender, and increase the team's value.

The Lakers go into next summer with ~$60 million to spend (after stretching Deng's contract), giving them a chance to sign both Paul George and Demarcus Cousins. The new Lakers dynasty would be in the 2018-19 Western Conference Finals with an average age of 23 years old.

Ball - Ennis?
Ingram - Hart
George - Kuzma
Porzingis - Nance Jr.
Cousins - Zubac - Bryant

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22 Jul 2017 23:39:18
Knicks have been reported of wanting to trade Anthony, another minor contract, and picks for Irving and Shumpert. There is also a report that Knicks are no longer trading Porzingis.

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23 Jul 2017 02:54:20
Melo is dealing with enough management drama with the Knicks, he's made it clear he prefers the Rockets. It will be an interesting development to see if the Cavs are willing to wait till December for a better trade offer.

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23 Jul 2017 15:35:58
As far as Melo to the Rockets I doubt it happens unless a Knicks buyout happens. Rockets must trade Ryan Anderson to add Melo and nobody wants his contract. So unless some mystery team comes in and takes his contract or the Knicks change there mind on Anderson I doubt a deal gets done. The Cavaliers are in no hurry to trade Irving. Yes teams are calling about him but the Cavs can say to Irving your under contract and we aren't trading you. Yes it will be interesting to see what team come in with an offer that the Cavs like. I think the Wolves, Clippers, Suns, and Nuggets would be teams to come in with offers that would satisfy the Cavs.

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23 Jul 2017 19:34:39
What if the Pacers take him? They get Ryan Anderson, Chinanu Onuaku, and a 2018 first round pick from Houston, in addition to the Knicks 2018 second round pick. Knicks also send Melo to the Rockets, while getting Thaddeus Young, Trevor Ariza, and Joe Young.

Since the report stated LeBron as the main cause of his trade request, I expect the Cavs to make a trade happen by New Years at the latest. How about Cavs/ Spurs/ Suns:
The Cavs get Eric Bledsoe, Lamarcus Aldridge, Marquese Chriss, and the Spurs' 2019 1st round pick. Suns get Kevin Love and a 2018 1st rounder from the Spurs, while they get Kyrie Irving.

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23 Jul 2017 23:25:05
As far as Ryan Anderson goes if the Knicks were to offer first rounders, and Houston offers first rounder plus take salary back like you mentioned Thaddeus Young it could work but I am unsure if the Pacers are interested in that. The Phoenix Suns have stepped up as a destination for Anderson and willing to take 3 first rounders with him but the Knicks want Chriss but the Suns want to trade Bledsoe and Chandler. Knicks don't want them.

As far as Irving the report is that the Kings are making an offer that includes De'Aaron Fox to get Irving. If a deal like that happens this off season I think Lebron James needs to think long and hard about potentially asking for a trade to the Lakers.

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24 Jul 2017 00:01:29
I meant 2018 and 2020 first rounders from the Spurs.

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24 Jul 2017 08:18:01
I think the Pacers need to hit the rebuild button. Anderson is a good compliment offensively to Turner and Oladipo's game. They get a young prospect, a 1st round pick, and swap bad contracts for a better fit (Young has 2 years left compared to Anderson's 3).

Yea, I don't see the Knicks taking Chandler without getting rid of Noah. I saw the Kings trade and it would be a mistake for them. They're rebuild is finally set in stone and they have good pieces on a rookie scale. They couldn't build a contender around Kyrie within 2 years with their current situation so he would walk in free agency. Not to mention a Kyrie and Buddy backcourt combo would be a disaster defensively.

If your the Cavs, would you wait till December to trade Kyrie for a Jeff Teague, Andrew Wiggins, and a 1st round pick?

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24 Jul 2017 16:34:09
Cavaliers are way over the salary cap and if they trade Kyrie Irving they might be in the starting period of rebuild mode. Jeff Teague contract and Andrew Wiggins extension is going to be a lot of money not only next season but seasons to come. So I would say get Wiggins, the 1st round pick plus Pekovic for cap relief which the Cavs would trade Kyrie Irving.

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22 Jul 2017 20:14:17
What if we trade with Cleveland for Irving and Love, for Clarkson, Ingram, Randle and Deng and future 1st and 2nd.
Cleveland wants Loves contract gone. And we want Dengs gone.
Then in 2018 we can sign for max free agent like paul george.
We don't need Lebron. He will mess our team up like he did Cleveland and Miami. Magic and Pelinka will be fine without Lebron playing GM.
Then our starting 5 will be
Ball
Irving
George
Love
Lopez

NOW that's A DYNASTY

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22 Jul 2017 23:43:58
Magic Johnson and Rob Pelinka want Lebron James. They are saving cap space for him along with Paul George. That's what's happening. So they aren't adding Irving or Love let alone both nor trading Ingram. Nice try though.

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24 Jul 2017 20:22:08
Lebron didn't "GM" the team in Miami. Himself, Wade, and Bosh got together and made it happen. And I'm sure that Riley was in on the whole thing.

The only reason Lebron went back to Cleveland was because he was given control over the team (cudos to him) .

He's shown he can fit into a team that has strong management (i. e. Miami) . Dan Gilbert is a huge douchebag and would never have won a championship with Lebron and his "GM" skills.

I would welcome LBJ to Lakerland, that dude can flat out ball. And with a young team can mentor them and push them to get to the next level. just as he did in Cleveland.

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22 Jul 2017 18:35:55
Lakers Moves (I'm Lavar Ball)

•Trade Luol Deng, Julius Randle, Jordan Clarkson, and 2020 top 7 protected 1st for Carmelo Anthony and Kuzminskas

-Sign Deron Williams 1yr 4.3m

2017/ 18 Lineup:
PG: Ball, Williams
SG: KCP, Brewer, Hart
SF: Anthony, Ingram,
PF: Nance, Kuzma, Kuzminskas
C: Lopez, Zubac, Bryant


2018 OFFSEASON
-Renounce KCP, Brewer, Lopez, Kuzminskas
-Draft a point guard in 2nd round
-Sign LeBron James 2yr 68m
-Re-sign Carmelo Anthony 2yr 35m
-Sign Dwyane Wade 2yr 30m
-Re-sign Deron Williams 1yr minimum
-Sign Dewayne Dedmon 3yr 30m
-Sign James Ennis 1yr room exception
-Sign Vince Carter 1yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Ball, Williams, Draft
SG: Wade, Ennis, Hart
SF: Anthony, Ingram, Carter
PF: James, Nance, Kuzma
C: Dedmon, Zubac, Bryant.

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24 Jul 2017 20:27:14
I don't think there is enough ball to go around on that team. Anthony and Wade are too old and are in breakdown mode. As is Williams.

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