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02 Mar 2022 21:19:42
After an incredibly disappointing season thus far, the Los Angeles Lakers and Westbrook reportedly have “mutual interest” in parting ways this offseason.

Guess Westbrook is opting in.

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23 Feb 2022 23:29:46
You know it's bad when Los Angeles-based sports talking heads and reporters are making the recommendation that that the Lakers trade Lebron James during this upcoming off-season.


What kinda of trade package do you think teams will make for Lebron for one-year at $45 mil?

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28 Jan 2022 15:59:24

Future projections are difficult to make, especially five years out. But given the Lakers position and their lack of assets outside of their 2027 pick, it has me trying to speculate what the value of that might actually be. Bear with me on this one:

The Lakers have been a draw for top tier players for the last couple of decades, but they've also had two of the game's most transcendent players for the better part of that time, which has me wondering; will they have the same draw a few years from now with Lebron (possibly) off the team? Even if he plays well into his 40's it's likely it becomes harder and harder to stay healthy and have the same impact on the team. Consider Bryant's last couple of seasons in the league. He still produced at a high level when healthy, but it didn't change the course of the team during that time.

Unless they learn from this season and let the front office surround them with the right supporting cast rather than bringing in their aging veteran friends, it'll be awhile before they have a solid set of young players they can develop into the right roles. Particularly with their scarcity of picks over the next few years.

So if we're looking into our crystal ball and projecting ahead to the 2025-2026 season:

IF James and Davis are still around, you're looking at two aging, banged up vets. IF they can stay healthy, will they still have the same impact on the game they've had historically? Will a Lakers team that features this duo still be as attractive to other top tier vets looking for a ring? Or will we be looking at something closer to the 2013-2016 Lakers with an aging and banged up Kobe and Gasol?

If it's the latter, that pick all of a sudden looks a lot more attractive. Keep in mind they had the number 2 overall pick three of those years (with 2014 being the outlier at no. 7) following a similar strategy. Remember when they signed a 38 year old Steve Nash?

I just get this sense that history may be repeating itself. It would be a gamble to give up a solid piece for that pick NOW, but there's also a very good chance that gamble pays off handsomely in a handful of years. For the right team (thinking Pacers with Turner or Pistons with Grant, for example) it might be worth the gamble.

Curious to hear your thoughts.

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29 Jan 2022 23:35:19
Personally I wouldn't give up a 2027 first round pick to get someone now other than maybe Marcus Smart. The fact is the defense for the Lakers this season isn't really that good. They will be top a 7th seed and low out of the tournament all together. I say they do make the play in tournament though. Lebron James will be gone well before the 2025-26 season and I say Anthony Davis will be gone as well. That will leave the Lakers in a position of rebuilding turning that time. Yes the Lakers could go after some stars like they did with Lebron and AD but nobody can really predict if the Lakers can get a championship level talent at that time.

As far as gambling the 2027 pick the Lakers have offered the pick along with a package of THT and Nunn to several teams including the Kings for Hield and Pistons for Grant. Nobody seems to really be that interested in the package. The only team willing to take the 2027 pick is the Rockets in exchange the Lakers take John Wall for Russell Westbrook. I wouldn't do that deal and based on reports the Lakers aren't interested. Lakers fans are so pushy. They don't want to wait or build a team. Trade or sign a player. Fact is nobody wants what the Lakers got right now.

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20 Jan 2022 20:09:33
Lakers should keep LBJ, Monk, Nunn, Bradley and Melo. Everybody else on the table. Especially if it helps unloading Westbrook. Nunn hasn't played a second but his game and James game blend. Ir would remind people when he played with DWade. No matter what reasonable package you put together with the people that are not listed above, Lakers easily seeds in the top 4.

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21 Jan 2022 19:46:03
You were ok until you said "Lakers easily seeds in the top 4." Top 4 of what? Standings? Lakers can't defend and honestly its just too late. Melo plays zero defense. AD is injured. I doubt Nunn will get back in time to really make a difference. Lebron James takes off defensive plays. Lakers are losing a lot of games to bottom teams and blowing big leads to those teams. No matter what moves they make the Lakers will probably be somewhere in the 7th to 10th range which will be the play in tournament. Got to be realistic.

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16 Jan 2022 01:27:17
I feel the Lakers should not make a move. Hear me out....Key piece: Nunn. Move Westbrook to 6th man. Give him the full green light on the second unit. A lineup of.....
Avery Bradley
.....should give teams hell if all 100% healthy.
And Howard should fill in nicely depending on rotational needs. I'll wait till next year to trade Westbrook. Contract more valuable as an expiring one. I can see a Lillard trade next year. Portland will rebuild and a Westbrook trade would keep them somewhat competitive and cap space is going to look lovely for the 23/24 season. Something to look forward to.

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03 Jan 2022 18:12:34
I think there is an interesting message to be found within the Lakers-Cavs-Knicks trade involving Rondo.

The Cavs were sending the Lakers a partially-guaranteed ($500K) . However, if the Lakers waived Valentine they would be stuck with the $500K + $1.25 mil in luxury tax. So they sent Valentine to a team under the luxury tax with the cash to pay for his $500K and a little extra for NY's cap space (lets say $250K) .

This message? Lakers are starting to count pennies when it comes to this current roster and may not be open to adding additional salary at the trade deadline.

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03 Jan 2022 22:36:02
The message is the Lakers would rather pay nothing to get Rondo off the books rather than pay $1.75M to have to waive Valentine. The whole idea is to open up a roster spot to sign a player say Stanley Johnson for the remainder of the season. Correct I don't expect the Lakers to make any major moves. They really have no young assets other than Horton-Tucker who has regressed this season.

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30 Dec 2021 05:49:26
Weird Stat comparison that I saw today

Lakers vs. Pacific Division. 1-5
Kings vs. Pacific Division 4-4.

That one Lakers win is over Sacramento.

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16 Dec 2021 19:29:29
We have to trade with Philly. Westbrook for Simmons. And for Philly to accept, we offer THT as well and they give us Curry and any other player to match salary.

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21 Nov 2021 20:31:02
If they didn’t fire Buss and traded James for Williamson. With the roster we have 2 years left. With the one below they would be competitive for years.
Pg. Ball, Caruso
Sg. D-Lo, Clarkson
Sf. Ingram, Kuzma
Pf. Williamson, Nance
C. Randle, Zubac.
With the rest of the roster get vets that will help train them.
Not it mention the #4 pick and all our picks back and any other picks we got in the James, Williamson trade.

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28 Nov 2021 16:33:45
I would have to disagree with you on being competitive for years with this roster. First let's look back on getting Lebron James. The Lakers had to trade Russell, Nance Jr. and Clarkson just to create salary cap space for Lebron to sign. So those players wouldn't even have been on the roster with James. If James hadn't sign with the Lakers then there would be no championship in 2019-2020 season. Davis and Lebron would probably be in either Chicago or New York right now. This team minus Williamson but plus the #4 pick (De'Andre Hunter) would be in the same position in the standings as the Lakers are in now if not worse. Those players are having individually success due to there roles on the the team they are on. Some doing better than others. As a collective unit this team would be too young and lacks that star players.

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04 Sep 2021 14:35:45
Are the Lakers a stacked superteam or are they washed and old?

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04 Sep 2021 01:06:35
So Lakers vs Nets

Durant Irving Harden Aldridge Griffin Millsap vs Lebron Davis Westbrook Howard Rondo Anthony Jordan Gasol (if stays)

This is basically the 2010's all star game lmao. How many are healthy by Christmas. Hope a complete one

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03 Aug 2021 20:58:50
I have faith. But it feels like 2004 again for the Lakers 😖

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03 Aug 2021 05:28:35
Looking like there’s absolutely no shot that Schroder gets the money he was seeking.

Any chance he re-signs with the Lakers now?

I think a 2yr 30m deal with a player option on the 2nd year could be good for both parties.

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06 Aug 2021 21:44:06
He should find a way to come to an agreement with the Lakers however I see him at this point moving on the for the MLE. Probably with the Celtics. There is very little interest around the league. The $84M offer rejection will go down as the second biggest mistake a player has made in NBA history. Right ahead of Oladipo's $87M rejection, and behind Noel's $70M offer rejection, Cousins rejecting $40M and Oladipo rejecting a second offer of $45M.

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02 Aug 2021 21:07:54
Lakers chose starpower over fit. I don't know where it might lead them to. On paper, it looks like a disaster. Only solution is that free agents (shooters) signs with them on a minimum deal. Good luck convincing them. Smh. Only thing that make this worth it is if they win one last chip for Lebron

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02 Aug 2021 00:44:56
Do you guys think there's any way the Lakers can still bring in Buddy Hield by way of a THT sign-and-trade?

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02 Aug 2021 15:02:55
No that is because of salaries. The only sign and trade for Hield would be Schroeder and the Kings don't need a third point guard. Now only if Schroeder is willing and if the Lakers, Kings and Wizards find a 4th team who wants Schroeder in a s&t like maybe the Knicks or Bulls those teams would have assets to send to the Wizards in a 4 team deal. Kings wanted Kuzma.

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