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14 Mar 2017 06:10:15
Draft Ball or Isaac
and
Swanigan

Lets drop the case for Dlo and trade him with Deng, Young and Nance for PG13 or Butler

Free agents:
JJ Redick
Amir johnson
Darren Collison (if Isaac got drafted instead of Ball because they might go what the bucks is doing, versatility and height)

waive Mozgov

Ball/Collison*/Ennis
Redick/Clarkson
PG13 or Butler/Ingram/Brewer
Randle/Amir/Isaac*/Robinson
Zubac/Swanigan/Black

Starters:
Ball
Redick
PG or Butler
Randle
Amir or Zubac

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03 Mar 2017 05:04:56
draft Jonathan Isaac

Mozgov, Nance and Young for M. Gasol or Drummond

Deng, Clarkson, Robinson and their Houston 1st rd pick acquired from Lou trade for George or Butler

It turns out that the lakers will lose 6 players plus 1 or 2 picks but that actually separates us from the Moz-Deng contract and acquire 2 established stars while containing our 2017 top protected pick, Russell, Ingram, Randle and Zubac.

We just need to get some quality players and improve the Line up from free agency.

Russell
George/Butler,
Ingram, Isaac, Brewer
Randle, Black
M.Gasol, Zubac

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1.) 03 Mar 2017 05:20:11
I don't see any of the other teams doing those trades.


2.) 03 Mar 2017 05:22:43
Ball, Fultz or Jackson would be a better fit for the Lakers than Isaac. If Ball is on the board the Lakers will take him.


3.) 03 Mar 2017 06:20:24
tool guy* then what can the lakers do for those teams to give it a go? include ingram in the George/ Butler trade then Randle to M. Gasol/ Drummond, I just look back at the Pau trade that materialize between LA and MEM?


4.) 03 Mar 2017 06:25:43
citydude* out of those three, Ball and Fultz may hinder Russell improvement, that's why they traded lou to make way for Russell, if Ball is available since Fultz is more likely to be the top pick, Ball jumpshot isn't that good compare to Fultz, Monk and Smith Jr. Jackson is athletic but very much athletic that's all, bad at FT and in distance like a young Winslow. I looked to the more polished ability of Isaac out of hose three which is lengthy and a much better shooter than ingram and agile or quick. I kinda want for LA is Durant, KP and Giannis style of play that creates mismatches. This is just my opinion.


5.) 03 Mar 2017 06:36:56
Ball and Fultz may hinder Russell dominance at the 1 spot but If Ball got drafted Russell will move to 2 spot which is pretty much like his position but as of now, lately due to the Lou trade I would love to see him facilitate and be more agressive as a shooter. For Jackson, he is much like a Winslow 2 years ago, pretty much athletic that's all, Jumpshot and free throw is my concern. Compare to Isaac, a kinda like for LA a KD, KP and Giannis style that creates mismatches. Just an opinion.


6.) 03 Mar 2017 09:51:16
Lakers need a play maker. Somebody that can find the open man and create plays on his own. Also a good defender. Lonzo Ball can do that. D'Angelo Russell is an aggressive shooter already so like you said he would be moved to the 2 spot and Ball can play the 1 spot. I think Ingram and Isaac play the same type game.


 

 

15 Jun 2016 11:19:26
We should get the 4th pick then draft buddy hield, his character and work ethic defines how great he is, and I still can't imagine the very huge gap of improvement he made from junior to senior to become such a great scorer and shooter.

Trade Nance, Clarkson, Young and 32th pick for 4th pick and Devin Booker

Draft Ingram at 2
Sign Whiteside at max deal

We can make hield a back up 2 or 3, for russell, booker and ingram that will slide down randle at 5 and create our own version of small ball

Sign Noah for 2 year deal
Sign Anderson for 2 year deal
Sign Marvin Williams for 2 year deal

Resign huertas, black

Russell/ Lou Will/ Huertas
Booker/ Hield
Ingram/ Marvin Williams/ Brown
Randle/ Anderson
Whiteside/ Noah/ Black

Small ball line up
Russell, Booker, Hield, Ingram, Randle

Just my thoughts, it will be nice I guess.

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1.) 15 Jun 2016 14:23:43
No way that the Suns would accept that


 

 

03 Jun 2016 09:24:23
Let's rebuild and stick to getting atleast 1 max player, either a supertstar, or a great center, then surround them with good role players, in that way, they will be able to gain experience and the potential they needed.

If Durant stays in OKC, sign a two year deal and opted out for the 2017 FA with westbrook that's the time we can pitch him or both.

Let's say we signed Durant for max deal no need to sign another max player only if a perfect center, who doesn't demand the ball but plays hard and good defense, because its an immediate upgrade to our team. If we get Whiteside then that's it, we can trade Lou and Young for a late first rounder, and sign Chalmers and Crabbe, for 7mil or 8 mil for 2 years, and sign Anderson for a stretch 4 or 5, for 12mil a year for 2 or 3 yrs.

Draft Ingram and Hammons/ Maker (if he stills a available)
Resign Huertas, Black, Kelly

Starters:
Russell, Durant, Ingram, Randle, Whiteside
2nd:
Chalmers, Clarkson, Crabbe, Nance, Anderson
3rd:
Huertas, Brown, Black, Kelly, Hammons/ Maker.

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1.) 03 Jun 2016 11:06:18
I think you would find that Anderson and Crabbe might be looking at a bit more money than you have them at, and I don't think Anderson comes both as him not being a target of the FO and him being able to maximise his abilities elsewhere in a win- now situation


 

 

27 May 2016 01:36:40
Whoever left on the table, either Simmons or Ingram, must be drafted by us. There's a zero chance for both of them becoming a bust in NBA.
Personal preference: Brandon Ingram, he's lengthy, shooter and can turn out to be a defensive star and scorer. He's not a scorer like simmons did in college because its not what coach K system is and compare to simmons we have russell to make the pass and drafting him will be a liability in forward positions, we already have randle, who plays slightly the same, if we get him, randle must be traded away.

then draft in 32 are the likes of Thon Maker, AJ Hammons and Blossomgame.
Personal preference: Thon Maker, same with Ingram, more importantly he is young.

Sign DeRozan max at 4yrs/ 84mil
Sign Barnes at 3yrs/ 50mil
Sign Whiteside at 3yrs/ 52mil

Sorry, I still don't think barnes and whiteside should be sign on max contract, a 3-year deal will do.

Lou is a liability in defense, I think lou must be traded with clarkson to celtics for Avery Bradley and pick or consideration offers.
Sign RFA Dion Waiters with salary of around a million dollars in 2 yrs/ 10mil.

Resign Huertas, Black, Kelly

Starters:
Russell, DeRozan, Ingram, Randle, Whiteside
2nd Strings:
Waiters, Bradley, Barnes, Nance, Maker
3rd:
Huertas, Black, Brown, Kelly.

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1.) 27 May 2016 03:17:16
If the Lakers offer Barnes a 3 year $50M contract the Warriors will match it. It's Max contract or forget it he won't sign. 4 years $88M. I wouldn't do your trade with the Celtics. Free agent signings are good though.


2.) 27 May 2016 05:41:14
Maybe you're right, But they offered barnes 4yrs/68mil and still declined the offer I don't think Warriors will be back in contention probably barnes will go with Luke, its not just the money and the warriors are likely to rebuild too around curry,thompson, and green. Then how will you address the defensive liability of Lou and Clarkson? Just saying.


3.) 27 May 2016 15:39:31
I think that the Warriors will be just fine with or without Barnes. If the Warriors decide to let Barnes go they will just sign somebody to take his place. To answer your question with the league the way it is I think it will be very hard to find a lock down defender who can come off the bench. I know there is Taj Gibson and Tony Allen who could be traded. Sefolosha and Shumpert are good but they probably won't be available. Like you said Bradley but I wouldn't give up Clarkson for these guys. I think Clarkson has a lot of upside and could become better defensively. We just need to wait and see. The only way I would look at dealing Clarkson is if we get a star player in return cause it would be an immediate upgrade. However based what I am hearing Luke Walton wants all 4 young guys on the team & to make the selection to make it 5 young guys.


4.) 28 May 2016 10:00:44
I see. Well I did know that Luke wants the 4 young guys and probably 6 in this year's draft. I'm actually trying to get rid Lou out of the team, and yet I choose Bradley or a sign with Courtney Lee to have better defense in the backcourt since the potential free agents are likely strengthening the frontcourt, i'm up to the development of backcourt and I can't find other options but to trade Clarkson but with that Yes, I probably would agree to that sentiments and wait if he can be that good in defense and develop this offseason.


 

 

 

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30 May 2016 08:56:38
Forget DeRozan as of now, in my opinion, if OKC lose to GSW in game 7 the thoughts of getting out of the team is possible, he will never get the championship he wants in OKC, I doubt, he'll be just like Malone and Stockton even how good they are they did not win because of HOU, and SAS, most especially because of Jordan, Chicago Bulls.

The possible destinations for Durant are Lakers, GSW, Celtics, and Heat, so basically the Lakers should make a pitch to Durant, give him a reliable understanding of what they can offer as L. A itself, the basketball aspects and even the projected free agents to surround him together with our young core, after the Lakers reportedly not high on DeRozan. It is certain that the Lakers are more into a supertar like Durant and a Center. There's no other way that the Lakers will move their young guys, they want to develop the team and want to win as many as possible and be a contender.

Notable players to sign are Anderson, C. Lee, H. Barnes, Beal, Waiters, Chalmers, G. Green, Crabbe, and J. Green.

For centers the either Whiteside or Drummond to back him up is Bismack since he is not particular if he comes off the bench or start in the game.

Just saying.

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29 May 2016 00:30:11
Lakers will pitch everything they have. They are actually getting there to what they want, starting from the coaching issues, now with Luke and Shaw, the realistic here is they will get the player they want and rebuild right away.

Whiteside at max deal 70 mil
DeRozan at max deal 84 mil
Batum 3 year deal 36 mil
Waiters 2 yrs 10 mil

Trade Clarkson and Lou for Embiid and Covington

Draft Ingram and Maker

Starters:
Russell, DeRozan, Ingram, Randle, Whiteside
2nd:
Waiters, Batum, Nance, Embiid, Maker
3rd:
Huertas, Brown, Covington, Black,

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06 May 2016 11:08:57
Draft Ingram or simmons and continue rebuilding or make play and target the likes of PG, Butler and Hayward with Favors in a trade

Option 1
sign whiteside
sign conley
sign parsons
trade top pick + clarkson and randle for Hayward and Favors

resign huertas and black
stretch young
let sacre, kelly and mwp
russell slide down to 2 when conley as their pg

starters:
conley
russell
hayward
favors
whiteside

bench:
huertas
williams/ brown
parsons/ mccaw (32pick)
nance
black

Option 2

draft Ingram or Simmons
draft gary payton II
trade top pick + clarkson for Butler and Bairstow
sign barnes and ezeli
sign whiteside

resign huertas and black

starters:
russell
butler
barnes
randle
whiteside

bench:
paytonII/ huertas
williams/ (brown)
brown
nance
ezeli/ black

option 3

draft ingram or simmons
trade top pick + clarkson for PG13

sign whiteside
sign ezeli
sign conley

trade russell + randle for butler and bairstow

resign huertas and black
let go sacre, kelly and mwp
stretch young

starters:
conley
butler
george
barnes
whiteside

bench:
huertas
williams
bairstow/ brown
nance
ezeli/ black.

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05 May 2016 16:33:34
Draft Ingram i'll take ingram over simmons because of his shooting, length and defense. He is match with the kind of basketball style today.

I think Lakers will develop and build the roster around Russell. He is way better than booker who benefited to the style of play and approach of their coach in the PHX. So I think they will not trade him. He is even the youngest rookie ever to made around 130 3's or more I guess I don't know the exact number.

I think its better to establish 1 superstar or great player for position. 1 from backcourt alongside with russell and the other 1 is in the front court. The problem in our line up after gasol-bryant era is that we do not have a very strong frontcourt. We have odom, bynum, a young artest, and trevor ariza.
Now, its better to get and sign Durant a superstar who is effective in making shots far more effective than bryant, I don't care if he had injuries before. Players do get injuries so what. Kobe plays with a shoulder problem and a knee injury. And KD should get out to the shadows of Westbrook who I felt like he wants to own the OKC as the primary star of the team. They are not prominent than before. Next is sign Whiteside, we need a shot blocker, a rebounder, a dominant presence in the paint. A tarik black as a second string at the center, a jason thompson or make play to sign barnes that we can slide him down from 3-5 spot just like draymond green. Then sign ryan anderson or parsons. Imagine a line up in the front court of durant, whiteside, barnes, randle, nance, parsons or anderson with black or thompson or maybe a durant, whiteside, barnes, randle, nance and thompson in the front court. Just let go kelly, sacre, mwp. They are not being helpful to the young guys. And stretch nick young or let him go as well or don't even care with him. We don't need his attitude and demeanor. Then this is the back court, a great player or a superstar who can defend, shoot well "effectively" midranges or long distances and can slide down to 3 spot. A SG that is more likely suitable to the style of spurs and warriors which is ball movement and continuous player movement hopefully we can see to the Lakers this coming season. The candidates are Butler, PG13, DeRozan, and Hayward. But I will remove DeRozan who plays like kobe. He holds the ball and make isolation plays or make a lot of shots. Its not good with the team and even the development of russell. We can now use the draft pick to get these players together with our young guys plus other players or the 32 pick. Pick + clarkson (s&t) to get Butler and bairstow. Now a bairstow can add to the players who can knock down 3s. This is the tough one if we can make play to get PG13 that is now being as great as he was or even better than he was. Or a Hayward who is a great player who do not hold the ball and can provide the help or suppot for durant. That would be enough I guess.

We can also move up vander blue to aid russell and huertas and we can slide down Brown to 2 spot if lou get traded.

Out of the three its better to get either PG or Butler.
clarkson + Ingram= butler and bairstow
clarkson + Ingram and future pick = Paul George

This will be the projected players if George:
Durant
George
Barnes
Russell
Whiteside
Randle
Nance
Lou or turner if traded
Brown
Thompson or Black
Huertas

if Butler:
Durant
Butler
Barnes
Whiteside
Russell
Randle
Nance
Lou or Turner if traded
Bairstow
Brown
Thompson or Black
Huertas

if there is still space, add parsons.

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1.) 05 May 2016 17:36:52
Lakers only have enough cap space to sign 2 of these 3 (Durant, Barnes, Whiteside). Barnes would more than likely get matched by the Warriors.


2.) 06 May 2016 04:00:59
make plays to get a trade for PG or Butler
if that's the case we can just sign Durant and Whiteside since you said barnes would likely be a tough one because of the warriors.
letting go some players and staying for atleast 3 or 4 young guys we can create space for signing other players I guess. right?


3.) 06 May 2016 05:45:29
Wrong


4.) 08 May 2016 14:38:28
There is something called at salary cap


 

 

 

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26 Jun 2017 16:07:36
bryant has more upside to start him over deng, or just get rid of deng for substantial picks, late 1st or second rounder.

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03 Mar 2017 06:36:56
Ball and Fultz may hinder Russell dominance at the 1 spot but If Ball got drafted Russell will move to 2 spot which is pretty much like his position but as of now, lately due to the Lou trade I would love to see him facilitate and be more agressive as a shooter. For Jackson, he is much like a Winslow 2 years ago, pretty much athletic that's all, Jumpshot and free throw is my concern. Compare to Isaac, a kinda like for LA a KD, KP and Giannis style that creates mismatches. Just an opinion.

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03 Mar 2017 06:25:43
citydude* out of those three, Ball and Fultz may hinder Russell improvement, that's why they traded lou to make way for Russell, if Ball is available since Fultz is more likely to be the top pick, Ball jumpshot isn't that good compare to Fultz, Monk and Smith Jr. Jackson is athletic but very much athletic that's all, bad at FT and in distance like a young Winslow. I looked to the more polished ability of Isaac out of hose three which is lengthy and a much better shooter than ingram and agile or quick. I kinda want for LA is Durant, KP and Giannis style of play that creates mismatches. This is just my opinion.

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03 Mar 2017 06:20:24
tool guy* then what can the lakers do for those teams to give it a go? include ingram in the George/ Butler trade then Randle to M. Gasol/ Drummond, I just look back at the Pau trade that materialize between LA and MEM?

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15 Jun 2016 10:41:05
Russell as a back up role won't benefit him or the lakers. But the team is pretty good if and only if it will happen

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06 Jun 2016 10:37:01
They can pay Harden, but they choose to give Ibaka way to shine, they thought that he is more of a good prospect to build around Durant, Westbrook and the others. If i'm not mistaken that's what I've known.

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29 May 2016 15:46:23
its actually good maybe an outright improvement, Beal and Barnes are decent shooters and defenders at 2 and 3, at center we can get Hassan, Drummond or Bismack, Hassan will do, the pick should stay with us, I don't think they will trade the 2nd pick unless it is an immediate upgrade like George, Butler or Cousins.

But both are restricted agents and more likely match the Lakers offer to be able those two to stay in their respective teams

and the Lakers, if only a trade could happen, the likes of Clarkson, Williams, 2nd pick, Randle to a superstar are the possible trade offers.

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06 May 2016 04:00:59
make plays to get a trade for PG or Butler
if that's the case we can just sign Durant and Whiteside since you said barnes would likely be a tough one because of the warriors.
letting go some players and staying for atleast 3 or 4 young guys we can create space for signing other players I guess. right?

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